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throgh [Conclusions for Hyperbola]
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 Please refer especially here also to [[https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:philosophy:commercialization|our stance towards commercialization]]: We rejected company-sponsored projects exactly out of that reasoning that many of them only build a community around the projects while the original community-aspect itself was never part from the beginning and is also not seen to be intended. Companies and corporations have no clear intention to give something back for others to learn, when they can't get back something for their own orientation, may it be to reach out further monetization or further inclusion and adaption of their licensed code. The projects we refer here are clearly not only under a free, permissive licensing and include only granted patents, trademarks and further owned copyrights. In that case **Python** is to be seen clear critical as there is enough influence of sponsors seen: No company and corporation would sponsor without the possibility to be granted more influence on several parts, groups, individuals or the whole foundation behind the project. Please refer especially here also to [[https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:philosophy:commercialization|our stance towards commercialization]]: We rejected company-sponsored projects exactly out of that reasoning that many of them only build a community around the projects while the original community-aspect itself was never part from the beginning and is also not seen to be intended. Companies and corporations have no clear intention to give something back for others to learn, when they can't get back something for their own orientation, may it be to reach out further monetization or further inclusion and adaption of their licensed code. The projects we refer here are clearly not only under a free, permissive licensing and include only granted patents, trademarks and further owned copyrights. In that case **Python** is to be seen clear critical as there is enough influence of sponsors seen: No company and corporation would sponsor without the possibility to be granted more influence on several parts, groups, individuals or the whole foundation behind the project.
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 ===== Conclusions for Hyperbola ===== ===== Conclusions for Hyperbola =====
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 +So after describing the two major problematic aspects of **Python**: What can we conclude now for Hyperbola as system-project and therefore resulting operating-system? For sure we do not exclude **Python** as language as enough other packages heavily depend on it for execution and building. It is not possible to exclude **Python** in a whole, while there is also no real other implementation completely independent seen comparable with the current **Python** reference implementation in Version 3. For **Python** in Version 2 we have concluded to use **Tauthon** as good replacement, compatible and fine working.
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 +Besides already named problems **Python** can be used, with the following conclusions:
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 +  * Until there are no severe security-issues reported there will be no further updates on the provided version of **Python**.
 +  * We do not provide **build**, **installer** and **pip** as we do not recognize circular dependencies, a complete independent package-management and further possible execution of malicious code as helpful or in any way supporting for the users and their technical emancipation.
 +  * We do and will not react on any further demands to include further packages for **Python** as we see our task not in filling up the system with more packages as to understand that every newly added software-project as package could be also the next possible security-issue and attack-vector.
 +  * Hyperbola as proect has its focus on [[https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:philosophy:community_software|community-oriented and rooted projects]], not on projects with a later build community around.